Solving Problems – A Christian Model

George Dantzig recalls his story “It happened because during my first year at Berkeley I arrived late one day at one of [Jerzy] Neyman’s classes. On the blackboard there were two (math) problems that I assumed had been assigned for homework. I copied them down. A few days later I apologized to Neyman for taking so long to do the homework — the problems seemed to be a little harder than usual. I asked him if he still wanted it. He told me to throw it on his desk. I did so reluctantly because his desk was covered with such a heap of papers that I feared my homework would be lost there forever. About six weeks later, one Sunday morning about eight o’clock, [my wife] Anne and I were awakened by someone banging on our front door. It was Neyman. He rushed in with papers in hand, all excited: “I’ve just written an introduction to one of your papers. Read it so I can send it out right away for publication.” For a minute I had no idea what he was talking about. To make a long story short, the problems on the blackboard that I had solved thinking they were homework were in fact two famous unsolved problems in statistics.

A year later, when I began to worry about a thesis topic, Neyman just shrugged and told me to wrap the two problems in a binder and he would accept them as my thesis.

Suppose Dantzig had been on time for class, and heard the news that the problems were unsolvable?

Christianity is an expert at pigeonholing it’s members that the problems can’t be solved. Waiting for the messiah to solve them, or being trained from birth that without god you are nothing. Prayer and hope are nothing but disabling crutches for the masses to restrict human potential by waiting. It needs to stop.

Years later George was told by a friend that he heard his story from the preacher at church. It was so embellished that it was hardly recognizable. Weird huh?

Here’s the whole story from Snopes

Pretty Cool

photo credit TheCommonAtheist “Sunset from my house” 2018


Author: jimoeba

Alternatives to big box religions and dogmas

19 thoughts on “Solving Problems – A Christian Model”

    1. Our whole society is modeled on that more or less Scotty. There are some incredible stories of people that didn’t listen, or weren’t there to hear. The essence of religion is to rely on someone else. Imagine all the wasted talent that focused on bs, instead of something productive.

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      1. I think we need also to understand that the problem goes beyond religion. It is also part of poverty and child abuse. In my own childhood it was drummed into me I was worthless, unable to do anything, and anything I tried was judged a failure. That plus being denied opportunities for education and advancement made believing in myself, even when told I was excelling at something, almost impossible. It has hampered and held me back all my life. So control and the need to control others is not just a religious thing, it is a problem that is deeper in our society. Hugs

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  1. Imagine that! Here we have an example of added embellishments coming right away from the very first person to have heard the account directly. Yet Christian apologists maintain the aural account of Jesus handed down through many people over many years is completely reliable.

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  2. Astrophysicists, cosmologists, astrobiologists, forensic astronomists, astrochemicists, etc, all pretty much agree that mathematics is THE KEY to the Universe/Cosmos — it is the language of all bodies, mechanics, birth, death, energy, and movement. Everything!

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    1. I really like this guy. And most of our elite scientists have one breakthrough in their entire career. Guys like Karl Popper, had one that made him famous, then continued contributing to advancement his entire life. Amazing. George Lantzig had many contributions and awards. While science is a process, religion is a single event followed by a long wait, reviewing the old burned out ways and maintaining that one event. It is the antithesis of growth.

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      1. Indeed. Religion is an ever-aging antiquated Closed-system — as I have reiterated multiple times to Pastor M and he still denies that is his system — that will one day go extinct, similar to the Greek gods and goddesses or any others around the world throughout all of time.

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  3. It isn’t just theologians embellishing or changing stories. Social media is full of it – hence the need for Snopes. I ran across an old example a couple days ago that re-told an opinion piece on aging with a certain number of life lessons. Someone reordered the list, deleted a couple and added 40 years to the author’s age. Why do people do that?

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    1. Not sure why, but it sure makes it easy to get fooled. I’ve been fooled, and really try not to. The story is great on its own merit, why lie? I get the preachers reasoning as nothing is impossible without god, and a little embellishment carries the “real” meaning in a more deceitful, godlike way. Lol.

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  4. Networking. I like to think this could be why or how community came together like an ice breaker, in the old days. Once you get money involved, it seems like weekly ritual to make an income. For cost of living, I imagine religious leaders are living in the nice neighborhoods of Seattle that house Doctors and Lawyers.

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    1. Religion dilutes to business without the exciting taxes. What goes hand in hand with business? Sales and marketing? And car salesman gotta make a sell to feed their family and afford toilet paper.

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  5. I have noticed amongst my Progressive friends who were Clinton supporters, this feeling of a Savior will come and rescue us. These friends are self-identified Pagans, but still have the Monotheistic Filter embedded in their brains. They don’t seem to want to solve their problems but want tea and sympathy for what ails them. They want the government to solve their problems.

    I have noted that the Progressive movement came out of the Second Great Awakening with establishing God’s Paradise on earth – i.e. notably in the United States. It would seem that passivity is a part of that since it means waiting for the Second Coming of Christ. I mention my friends’ political leanings since I believe that people in the media regarded Obama as the Messiah and Clinton played on that in her running for office.

    Since the election of 2016, I have noted my friends are waiting for Trump to be removed by various means, and have constructed a conspiracy theory of everything to explain what happened. I believe that this sort of thinking of having everything tied together comes from the idea of “all things come from God, etc.” So Christian thinking permeates even civil discourse.

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    1. You make so much sense. “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”
      ‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬
      Even bad things credit gods wisdom to them. Those Christians that hate Trump, think he will usher in the messiah, so it’s all good. Some even voted for him based on that desire. So, yes. I’d say it’s permeated civil discourse. And quite uncivilly too.

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      1. My friends are anti-Christian and loudly so. They are believers in Archetypes and that the Gods are all a part of that. They also rail against the patriarchy. So, I wonder how much has 1000 years of Christianity have embedded itself in our brains. Even outside of the Christian civil culture, monotheistic thinking pops up in the strangest places. I am certainly not immune to the culture either.

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