Fossilized Cephalopod from Everest Summit

How geologists date young earth fossils on Mount Everest

Marine-fossil sea lilies in limestone (8000 meters) and ammonites (extinct cephalopods) in the lower layers (4000 meters) of Everest, explain quite nicely the the amount of time it took to form the Himalayas.

The Indian continent drifting 12 inches per year (super fast is geological terms). 50.5 million years ago when the supercontinent broke apart, then 30 million years later India crashed into Asia, forcing the sea floor up to form the Himalayan mountain range.

The same sea lilies are found on every continent from the same time period, conclusive evidence of the prehistoric geology of the plates, movements, and direction the continents journeyed.

50.5 million years plus 30 million years is 80.5 million years—a little less than six days in biblical time.

Limestone is a sedimentary rock, composed mainly of skeletal fragments of marine organisms such as coral, forams and molluscs. Its major materials are the minerals calcite and aragonite…Wally?

Author: jimoeba

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58 thoughts on “Fossilized Cephalopod from Everest Summit”

  1. Clearly there was a global flood that deposited these fossils way up there. How dare you refute that with science? Next you are going to say that dead people don’t live again, people can’t walk on water and donkeys and snakes can’t talk.

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      2. I remember when I was a Christian being told this story. There were fossils of sea creatures on mountain tops because the flood waters went that high back during the time of Noah. The problem is that there is no record of a global flood anywhere. You would think there would be some evidence of such a big (global) event. Oh well. Evidence is overrated anyway.

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        1. I don’t think mollusk populations would migrate quite that far in a year long flood. Then embed fossilized in surface rock. But, god is mysterious.

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          1. It doesn’t have to make sense. This is where faith comes in. And Jim, you just don’t have it. Neither do I. And more and more lose it every day.

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        2. You’re right about the lack of evidence for a flood, Ben. If there had been a world wide flood some 5,000 – 6,000 years ago as described in the Bible the evidence for it would be glaringly obvious. On top of that, if the flood had occurred and everything was killed except for the animals Noah had with him, how the hell did every continent in the world get repopulated with animals, insects, etc. in just a few thousand years, from a single release point, the Ark? How did plant populations and forests get reestablished? it would take far longer than just the few thousand years since the time of Noah for plant and animal populations to spread world wide.

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          1. It’s one of the things which got me leaving Christianity. Plus, there are several MILLION species of animals on earth. We are meant to believe Noah went and got them all and fit them on an Ark. Really?

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            1. They wouldn’t have fit, of course. Well, unless he had Dr. Who’s Tardis. Plus there would have had to be accomodations for fish, crustaceans, worms, insects and everything else because Genesis says god wiped out EVERY living thing he created except what was on the ark.

              But the fundamentalists always seem to have this ability to ignore anything that doesn’t fit in with their view of the world, or fall back on their universal and ultimate deux ex machina, god just did it and us lowly humans have no right to question it.

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  2. My youngest son is a geologist and also dabbles in paleontology. He was on a dig for four weeks a while back and some of the stuff they came back with is absolutely astonishing. Anyway, when someone starts the creationism and young earth nonsense with him, he just sighs, shakes his head and walks away. He doesn’t even bother to engage them because he knows they won’t actually listen to anything he says anyway. I have a trilobite sitting on my desk that he gave me that he estimates is about 260 – 270 million years old. They went extinct about 252 million years ago. Successful little critters as a species, though. The species survived for about 270 million years.

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    1. That’s awesome. I’ll have to redo my math. This cephalopod is only 1 day old in Bible math. Thanks Grouchy. You just devalued my post by 200million years

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      1. You’re right, Bill. All you can do with a lot of these people is just walk away and not bother to try to engage them because they just don’t listen. Any argument you make that contradicts their world view is countered with things like “well, it’s like that because God made it that way”. I’ve actually run into people who believe that all of science is one vast conspiracy being organized by Satan just to try to trick people into denying their beliefs.

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        1. Currently reading ‘The Magic of Reality’ by Dawkins. The straight thinking is so welcome. I LOVE IT! Truth and reality: devilish plots to turn us away from delusion.

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    1. I don’t really have much respect for it either. I see your point though. They’ve set the standard of infallible perfection in scripture way too high, then, how is a skeptic supposed to believe a word of it? Just stories of how to live, and not to live a happy life. The preachers have thwarted man’s discovery, which is a huge portion of real happiness.

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  5. Beautiful collectable specimens . I live by the sea and often contemplate the waves , our lives are so short the ocean seems eternal ; it’s strange to think it once washed over the highest point on the earth. We are very fortunate to have been born into a scientfic age when some of the great truths about our world and the galaxies beyond have been revealed.

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    1. Certainly. And the marianas trench is 3000m deeper than Everest is tall, and its teeming with life as well. We’re talkin a lot of years! Really difficult to grasp millions, then billions

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      1. Yes these huge numbers are not easy to grasp . I find it hard to believe the fixed stars ( apparently ) are moving at fantastic speeds but our lives are brief and we look up at what we take to be permanent.

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        1. The voyager-1 launched in 1978 has just entered interstellar space. At 38,000 mph will arrive at a star near the Big Dipper in 40,000 years! Radio signals currently take 17 hours each way to contact voyager. That’s 17 light-hours from earth. Fascinating that someday we may be able to intercept her.
          Another thing, Hubble deep space photos…they pointed Hubble at a dark spot in the sky, about a grain of sand in size at arms length, let the camera absorb light for 11 days—10,000 galaxies which emitted their light 75 Billion years ago! God hanging the stars for a lesser light to light the night? Light we can’t even see, from light traveling at lightspeed for 75billion years. Cool stuff.

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      2. The time span is daunting, isn’t it? My son is a geologist and I’m an amateur astronomer so the two of us talk about time scales in the millions or even billions of years without hardly thinking about it and tend to forget just how difficult it is to deal with those kinds of numbers. Our sun is a fairly young star, a second generation star, about 4.3 billion years old. So the universe had already been in existence for about 10 billion years before our star was even born. Because of the chemical composition of the sun and it’s planets we know that it was formed out of a cloud of hydrogen that had been seeded with elements that were created in supernovas. First generation stars that came into existence first were made only of hydrogen and a bit of helium. The nuclear fusion furnace in a star can only “cook up”, so to speak, elements up to the atomic weight of iron, if I remember right. To make elements heavier than that it takes the enormous energies of a supernova. So a significant portion of everything around you, including yourself, was actually created in some of the most powerful explosions in the universe. I don’t know about you, but I think that is really, really cool.

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  6. I spent four months in the Himalaya, and even though I knew the mechanics of how and when they were formed, I was not really prepared to actually *see* that the sandy paths you walk along are made up of crushed sea shells. Take a handful of surface dirt, and it’s made up mostly of shells. It blew my mind.

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    1. I was not aware that there was that much of it! Evidently pretty easy to find. I watched a doco on this and it almost looked like a setup, it was just too easy. The lily at 8000m was interesting. There wasn’t a ton of exposed rock to work with and he only has a few minutes search due to altitude, but, it really was that easy. Incredible!

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        1. Really, unless you understand how it was formed, it is the last place on earth you’d expect to see that. I was up in the Unitas in Utah several years back. They weren’t that thick, but fairly easy to find clam shells. There is some pretty incredible geo history here in the states as well. I suppose every place has its story to tell.

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    2. I used to live in Wyoming and there you find lots of fish fossils in Southeastern Wyoming and Utah. All that area used to be underwater about 200 million years ago. It’s pretty amazing.

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          1. Hmmm, when I was in school I was taught a male horse crossing with a female donkey, the offspring was called an ass, which could not propagate. I guess my teacher was under a wrong impression himself, as this meaning does not appear to be true. I guess I can compare this to a god, whom I was wrongly taught was the most powerful force in the universe. Amazing how gullible children are. We accept what we are taught without question.

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            5. I do. Think Ken is my least favorite vegetable brain. It’s a toss up between him, ray Comfort, and Creflo Dollar.

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  8. I think the most amazing thing is that life being as old as it is, the best thing to come along (according to humans) are us. Surely life could have done better in those billions of years. Where did it go so wrong?

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    1. If you get a chance to read Mark Twain ‘Letters From the Earth’ he has a section in there about man being the lowest animal. Born basically sickly from birth to death, destroys everything in his path and contributes nothing to the earth, but is arrogant and considers himself the intimate creation.

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      1. Pretty much. I think the creationists in NZ aren’t as overt as the Americans when it comes to spreading beliefs or being political though. I do remember having a biology teacher who believed in ‘Intelligent Design’ and would criticise evolution at every chance he got. I don’t know how he got away with it.

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  10. Here in Albuquerque, we have gazillions of sea creature fossils at 11,000 feet elevation in the nearby Sandia mountains…. gazillions that you can find without even trying. Either those pesky pinko liberal atheists have been pretty darn busy planting false evidence to confuse me or God Himself (everybody knows that God is a man, right?) put them there to put my faith to a real test!

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    1. All one really has to do is go look. Go outside and snoop around a little. See some of the world outside your own private Idaho. “You gonna trust evidence of obviousity, or your lyin preachers?”

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