The collapse has come and gone. “He” never came back, but hope and pride won’t fess up to the fact—so the ever extending goal posts. Christianity is so far removed from its roots it can’t even dig one up. Buried in a wash of now speculative jargon, still looking for what was an obvious, imminent prediction forever prolonged under the hubris of hopeful generations. Is it that hard to admit they were wrong? Fooled? Maybe read too much in to it? It’s fundamental precepts have dissipated into the stratosphere—of longing. Reveling in what might have been, the big promise of the hero’s return is just too tempting to let go.
We are now in a world where belief has no utility. No ritual, no improvements, but only words masking the wishful’s true behavior. Every believer is on the same diverge in the yellow wood, following the road most traveled by and marked in the sod like an old wagon trail, seeking an ideal that brings peace and eternal life—a promise that no man can resist.
Islam is the last hope, where they still have the stomach to do things that no man cares for—kill things to appease God.
Western man has now turned to machines to do their killing, far removed from that distaste the moment they have the opportunity. Barely even able to kill their own food while those that do often ritualize it and thank their god for the life they’ve taken. Religions have moved on from blood sacrifice to the sacrifice of personal growth—for no greater purpose than self deprecation.
The goalposts have shifted and stretched from generation to generation. The failed prophecies have been too numerous to measure, but hey, who really cares? That, would be some kind of evidence. The beginning of the end—again.
Like balking a-top the high dive, it’s time for bungee-jeesus to come down from the cross.
Can we really and truly believe, or can we only decide to pretend to believe. Deciding to believe a non-ordinary, supernatural delusion is a choice, which makes it a charade of pretense mixed with hope.
TheCommonAtheist 
They say that the time cycle repeats itself and a new beginning will dawn. New avatar will rise.
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The myth here is not unique in any way. Every culture has the hero myth, the longing for purpose, the trials, temptations, overcoming the odds, the triumphant return. I would guess the testimonies of these things not seen and proselytizing it made it bigger than anyone would have imagined. Like Star Wars.
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How do you know which god is more greater and powerful? I think we’re selfish to convert or get converted. We base our beliefs on ‘wishes that have been granted’ and ‘societal status’
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It a lot about validation. If more agree with them, they can’t be delusional, right?
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People who believe in heaven and hell and still convert to other religion don’t realize they’re going to hell.
Is there any bigger delusion?
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With so many people crying out, ”Come Jesus, come now,” I reckon it’s time this Latin gigolo, whoever he is, is forced to ‘fess up and brought to book, don’t you?
Disgusting, I tell you! Have they no shame?
😉
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For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away. Isaiah 64:6
But you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their garments—Revelation 3:4 Time to fess up!
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Or to quote Life of Brian: ”Er …. about eleven, sir. Shall I fwow him to the floor now, sir?”
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Lol. I never saw that show til I met all you here. That was worth the entire journey.
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My wife ”banned” me from quoting it at one time. The first occasion I saw it was in a small cinema in Manchester shortly after my initial return to England from SA after my first contract ended.
Since then I must have worn out the DVD!
”I’m not the Messiah now ….”
You can finish the line if you like?
🙂
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Fuck off?
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Just to be clear …. is that a question, or are you asking me politely to go?
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I couldn’t remember if it’s piss-off or fuck-off. Maybe I’m suffering from the Mandela effect— Either way, always happy to have you here
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I have never heard the Mandela effect. And who’s Mandela anyway? Didn’t he die decades ago?
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It’s where you remember an alternate reality. Like the end of Queens “we are the champions”. Everyone remembers it wrong. “We are the champions…..” “of the world” is not the end of the song
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“Islam is the last hope…” <— What a horrible thing to say. The end of religion as the other only hope seems frustratingly delusional to me. Would it be hypocritical of me to pray for the end of religion? 🙂
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The benefits of religion in this country used to show tangible effects. This is true only in smaller subsections of the country now and as this trend continues, religion will slowly fade to black … unless there is a turn downward and people will run screaming to religions to save them, because that is what we do .
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Sure. A little trouble and where do you run? Plus the men of words love to capitalize on any type of misfortune.
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Give it a few years, but Jesus *will* become an Avenger.
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i’m so glad, god has nothing to do with religion 😁🙏
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“That is not Germane to the situation”—Sheriff Branford. “The god damn Germans got nothin’ to do with it”—Buford T Justice.
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hahah! is what i say.😜
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Hahaha! Bungee-Jeebus. 😆
BAH! HOGWASH! Religion is NOT done for! We the infamous Knights of Ni… defending the vapors and fog against all enemies of the Almighty Ni… we fight on to the death! Well, actually…
…we never REALLY die no matter how dismembered or humiliated we become. Three yelps for Ni!
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Jimmay! The hilarious bungee Jesus triggered a damned serious tbought… Christians themselves are the ones who forever keep Jesus nailed to the cross. They refuse to let him down lest they have to take responsibility for their own behavior. Thanks and peace, man.
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Great observation Frank J!
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Great comment, Frank!
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And yet atheists are always the ones being accused of living recklessly, not wanting to answer for their transgressions. The truth is, people without religion are the ones actually dealing with their issues. We try to right our wrongs and reconcile with those who we’ve hurt.
Those who claim to be “living in the age of grace” are the ones who all too often are doing and saying whatever hurtful thing they want and then apologizing to Jesus later instead of the offended party. “I’m not perfect, but I am forgiven.” Living your life in a “get out of jail free” manner (“washed in the blood of Jesus”) is not living a life of accountability.
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What you wrote has soooo much truth in it. But the believers are totally blind to it. Sad.
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Love bungee-jeezus!
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Same questions as before in your last post. Do we have the choice to believe or not? If we do choose to believe one way or another than is it all pretend? Or is it only pretend if someone believes things differently than how you see it?
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It’s not only pretend if someone “believes” different than I see it. All I’m asking is that people know the hard data about themselves and the foibles of human psychology and physiology. It’s all very explainable without the need to go to unanswerable questions that make humanity one big feedback loop. And for what was the question asked? Why are we here? There is no reason ever found in the history of the world, but we are compelled to seek because we were simply asked. That is another flaw of the human mind. We can’t help but respond to questions. It hijacks the mind.
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Jim,
I am all for “hard data” and recognizing human foibles. But I reread your post and didn’t find any hard data presented.
Rather I saw a post that seems to play on human foibles – including fear of being ostracized by growing number of people who laugh at Christianity. I agree that playing on fear is a more effective way to convince people than reason. But there will always be some people who don’t care what everyone else thinks. Your pictures will not be convincing to them. They are are not hard data they are instead clearly playing on human foibles.
” Why are we here? There is no reason ever found in the history of the world, but we are compelled to seek because we were simply asked. That is another flaw of the human mind. We can’t help but respond to questions. It hijacks the mind.”
You say no answer has ever been found but others disagree. Your simple assertion is not going to be persuasive to everyone. Although I agree it is a human foible that if something is repeated often enough some people will believe it.
And yes we can help but respond to questions. Especially questions we don’t find important. But people rightly think the question “Is there a right way to live?” is an important one. That is why it is a question that rational thinking people don’t just shrug at and then go back to another episode of south park. The importance of that question is why people are religious. Its not because they really really wanted to know how lightening happens.
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If you care to look and the studies I can dig up an older post or two. I quit posting them because people just weren’t looking. I don’t make this up, contrary to what may be thought. From NDE’s and OBE’s to “spiritual” experiences, hormones and visions, these things are routinely reproduced in the experiments. You may want to find time to look at some of them. Many people have their most spiritual experiences ever, after temporal lobe seizures and many of the founders were most likely epileptic or from ergot poisoning. Controlling ergot infiltration in crops has led to a significant decrease in the hallucinations.
Paul’s experience on the road to Damascus, Abraham, Muhammad, Moses, all exhibited these trance like experiences in the stories. Ellen Whites prophecies after her basilar skull fracture are the foundation of the Jehovah’s Witness sect. She continued to “prophecy” after many of these witnessed experiences/seizures through her life. Joseph Smith’s first vision resembles the same account as a drug induction or a postictal recovery state. They all see the light, and they all fall in line with what we know in modern observation of these conditions. Visions, spectral evidence from dreams, astral glides, shadow figures, and prophecy is all related to the indoctrination’s and cultural habits they were involved in at the time.
God always appears as the race of the subject and elaborations are not visions from the almighty, but extensions of the Uber religious control mechanisms already in place at the time they lived.
There are thousands of very good explanations for the delusions, but people like their gods, even when a absolutely convincing argument is presented.
If there is a god, he plays a masterful game of skew the brain to get his points across—poorly.
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Just noticed this — Ellen White is associated with the 7th Day Adventists. Charles Russell started JW’s.
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Pardon the misstep. I knew that. Thanks Nan.
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Jim
I was gone for a while and reread this. I am not sure why you are posting about out of body experiences. But since you did some of them seem to suggest that while the person was out of their body they saw or heard things they couldn’t have based on the positioning of their body. (for example they heard a conversation or saw something in a different room) I never had that experience but some people claim they did. If someone did have that happen does science have an explanation?
I don’t think Paul’s vision on the road to Damascus was an out of body experience. But yes some people try to explain the Resurrection as a sort of mass delusion.
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https://jimoeba.wordpress.com/2018/08/27/god-works-through-epilepsy-la-fort-fractures/
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https://jimoeba.wordpress.com/2018/06/26/hypnagogia-or-revelation/
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I think you um, unnailed that one 🙂
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Haha. And that…cymbal crash! 🎯
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Lol
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