Second Coming—The Transfer of Power

After building gods kingdom here on earth, how exactly do we hand the keys to Jesus?

“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three—Luke 12:51-53

How will this same gospel unite us after Jesus returns in “power and great glory”? If his truth is eternal, isn’t what is true now be true then? Possibly Christianity has a higher hope that things will be better with a single theocratic ruler than I do.

The millennial reign of Jesus will be available only to those willing to continue to submit completely. There will be no dissenting the Lord in his glory. The entire millennial reign is an affront to free speech, free will, and our earnest attempts at a free republic (the best form of government)

There is a reason people fought to establish a republic, but how now do we transfer it to a kingship theocracy of totalitarian rule?

After every government possible is infiltrated by Jesus’ anointed leaders “building the kingdom” here on earth, how do we transfer that power to god? He’ll take it! Every knee shall bow and very tongue confess that Jesus is lord—or else.

We have never seen hell on earth like we do when theocracy will rule. It is written: “As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God—Romans 14:11

“And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father”—Rev 2:23. Welcome to the rebirth. Like father like son?

If any of it were true at all… but it is people believing this tripe that has humanity at odds with each other.

Author: jimoeba

Alternatives to big box religions and dogmas

54 thoughts on “Second Coming—The Transfer of Power”

  2. But, Jim, shall not “the meek inherit the earth”? Seems to me that was taught to me in my childhood. People of Abrahamic religions, especially christians and muslims, are violent in their proselytizing.
    I guess non-believers must be the meek. Imagine, a world without religion, supplied to us by their own god. How glorious that would be!

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    1. The meek are those who will submit to totalitarian rule will inherit the right to carry on in blissful, strict obedience. God will not be mocked this next time around in his glory. “When we shall see him as he is”. Would anyone consider this version as “good”, unless it was presupposed at the beginning of our investigation that any of it were good at all?

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    1. Just a few observations. Either people don’t read their bible, don’t believe their bible, nor understand how very few pious, actually obedient believers there really are. If any indication of the way it would be if it were true, god would get tired of the whole worship thing and just shut it down. He did it before when he “repented that he had made man” and drown everyone.

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  4. Well, Christian Domestic Discipline is an actual thing. Just saying…

    OK, the main draw to spanking in a D/s marriage is that the Husband likes to feel in control and the wife likes to feel that control and think of her Husband as a powerful man in charge. It is often this complete transfer of power/control that is the turn on and not the actual slapping of the rump … It’s the position of power that displays their wife’s submission so thoroughly that is erotic. Wives usually say the same thing and include that they enjoy it much more than their husbands. (men, if you have a wife that is asking you to be more dominant, but are having a hard time actually coming up with ideas, here is a no-brainer dominant show of shows, just make sure your words are confident and low the whole time 🙂 )

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    1. I would like to think you’re making that up… but look at how people still clamor around just to get a peek at royalty. Now imagine your king has all eyes and you have no personal life? These types better hope spanking isn’t on the list of sins in the new earth. Jesus will be watching. But hey, they say he already is but that changes nothing.

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      1. Oh, it’s real. I would paste some links, but it buggered up last time. Just google Christian Domestic Discipline. There’s even a site christiandomesticdiscipline.com

        the quote comes from a site God’s Gift to Him, Everything you want to know about loving erotic spanking

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        1. @ JZ

          It is a tad odd that you are viewing Christian sites about erotic spanking.
          Should we be concerned? Does your wife know?

          I’m in two minds about recommending a cold shower and exorcising or simply exercising followed by a cold shower.

          pee ess. I strongly suggest you delete said sites from the history in your browser.

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            1. As you are Australian and prone to exaggeration, I think it prudent that all here in Blogville who know you should vote on whether we think you are being straight or telling Porky Pies.

              I consider it a grey area of at least 57 shades.

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    1. It’s weird that the believer feels exempt from the thrashing and dictatorship, but even if you make the cut, Jesus will not be mocked in his glory—his way or hell. Thanks Ron.

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    2. @ Ron.
      Of course Rod of Iron is a literal translation and one should recognize that when Jesus refers to His Rod of Iron he probably means something else entirely.

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  7. I saw this coming, again. If it did happen and was real, all those fat cat lying hypocritical preaches would be in such deep shit with their man/god, I’d pay to see how it went.

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  10. well, with this idiotic story, we have this JC murdering everyone who doesn’t agree with it, and then after an “eon” we have this god intentionally letting the bad guy loose to corrupt the Christians who are left. I can just see it “But Daaaaddd, I was in charge. Why are you letting him smash my playthings?”

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  11. The apocalypse idea was not really consistent between early Christian sects. Even the Book of Revelation had many detractors and almost did not make it into canon. It was supposedly written by someone called Cerinthus, according to some sources. Whoever wrote it hated a group of Christians that followed the opinion of some guy called Nikolaos on some matter, because he and his group are singled out by the author of Revelation. That is a clue.

    https://www.qumran.org/js/qumran/hss/1qm

    Here is an apocalyptic text from the Dead Sea scrolls. Apocalypses were a very common genre in the time the Christian sect was being formed. There was no particular reason to be impressed by one or the other. It really deadens the effect of Christian fearmongering about “the End Times” when you know that this same mixture of bombastic prediction, veiled political invective, and playing on hope and fear was being done by other Jewish sectarians well before Christians took up the genre. The Book of Daniel was probably the prototypical apocalypse, though prophetic exaggeration from books like Isaiah and Jeremiah provided the early raw material. None of the things they wrote about(or raved on the street corner about) happened back then, either.

    And that rod of iron imagery is not all that hard to understand in context. To make it short, the Jews hated their neighbors and wanted their land and wealth after they killed them all. They also wanted to be secure in their territory from the big empires of the time(Egypt, Assyria, Hellenistic states, Rome). There is some indication that the neighbors of the Jews(like Moab) felt the same way about the situation, they just included the Jews in their list of wicked enemies. When something like “he shall break them with a rod of iron” was said(the original image is from Psalm 2), it simply meant a promise that Yahweh or his approved ruler would destroy the neighbors of the Israelites and take their stuff. The origins of all these apocalypses come from the desire of the Jews back then to justify their desire to rule and plunder, or in some cases to rebel against the dominant power. Isaiah 61 about how foreigners(slaves or dependents) will do the work for the Jews.

    Isaiah 61
    4 They will rebuild the ancient ruins
    and restore the places long devastated;
    they will renew the ruined cities
    that have been devastated for generations.
    5 Strangers will shepherd your flocks;
    foreigners will work your fields and vineyards.
    6 And you will be called priests of the Lord,
    you will be named ministers of our God.
    You will feed on the wealth of nations,
    and in their riches you will boast.

    This following is from the end of Isaiah 11. It was a very influential chapter for later Jewish and Christian eschatology. But when the imagery of the lion laying down with the lamb passes, this is how it ends. It comes back to the reality of what the author desired, domination of non Judeans and plunder/tribute. Also, the imagery of the great ruler and highly exaggerated things that were to come(lion and lamb, snakes no longer bite) were pretty typical of ancient Near Eastern proclamations about a new king. In ancient Egypt, the crowning of a new Pharaoh had “all sinners fall down on their faces” and “the whole world renew itself” as part of the language used in the ceremony. It was based on the ideal, not what was actually expected to happen. People later on, even today(for religious reasons or otherwise), tend to take Biblical use of such language seriously because it was transformed over time into something that it originally wasn’t.

    Isaiah 11
    14
    They will swoop down on the slopes of Philistia to the west;
    together they will plunder the people to the east.
    They will subdue Edom and Moab,
    and the Ammonites will be subject to them.
    15
    The Lord will dry up
    the gulf of the Egyptian sea;
    with a scorching wind he will sweep his hand
    over the Euphrates River.
    He will break it up into seven streams
    so that anyone can cross over in sandals.
    16
    There will be a highway for the remnant of his people
    that is left from Assyria,
    as there was for Israel
    when they came up from Egypt.

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    1. Well said. To add to your thoughts here, early Christianity actually hadn’t broke free of the circular view of time that came from eastern religions. Many had adopted the idea that if the world were to actually end, then it would be remade, inline with Hindu thinking, and things would start all over again. There wasn’t really this worry about the end of the world because life was a cycle and it would all happen again. In that context, it makes sense that really Apocalyptic wasn’t about the end of reality, but rather more like a new chapter in history, rather than the end of it.

      It wasn’t, until I believe about the 6th century that Christian scholars didn’t like the idea of things like the Crucifixion happening all over again, they wanted it to be a special event that could only happen once. This led to a a change in philosophy in which the world had a beginning and an end. This philosophical change also led to a linearized view of time and sent scholars on a mission to determine the age of creation…backfired a bit when we went from 6,000 to 4.5 billion years. 🙂

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  12. This is an interesting way of looking at it. Does man submit to ultimate power on his own or is he made too.

    Do we need to submit? Is the world ok as it is now or would it be better if mankind were forced to do better? Those starving and suffering would most likely say we need to submit but those living in basic or better-living conditions would say to resist.

    This reminds me of the AI paradox. I kept a clip for this and I think it has an interesting connection to what you are saying.

    [video src="https://thinkonyourownblog.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/colossus-freedom-lost.mp4" /]

    Let me know your thoughts on it Jim, I’m curious

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    1. Well, first of all I would read K’s comment just above yours, then I would agree the video is pretty accurately aligned with Christian scripture. It is interesting how the second coming is always hoped for and waited, but why? There’s no pleasantries exchanged but peace or else. The dichotomy is Christianity’s. I don’t believe any of it anyhow. This is one that puzzled me as a believer but, just have faith, I was told. If the Bible is true, its history was written by the winners, and they weren’t the good guys.

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      1. You Stated — “I would agree the video is pretty accurately aligned with Christian scripture”

        My Response — This I find interesting since the video indicated an end to war and strife.

        The question then becomes, is peace paid for with the end of freedom a fair trade?

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        1. Or maybe there is a better way we’ve never even considered. But imagine a world where everyone believes the same things and is strictly obedient, yet the afraid to speak their true minds…

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          1. You Stated — “Or maybe there is a better way we’ve never even considered.”

            My Response — Since we don’t know how this one works… maybe this is the better way.

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            1. There is no consensus because of beliefs. Without beliefs we could hammer out a pretty decent model over coffee. I was engaged with a gent about 6 months ago, and because of belief he wouldn’t even answer one question related to finding a starting point. A step by step walk into personal autonomy built inside a framework and protection of equality. He would not even agree there was a rock on the table in front t of us. Silly, and he uses those beliefs to condemn others.
              I know they are not his beliefs, but the challenge of faith turns into what “we believe” but nobody feels that way through unbelief. His mind had become hijacked and hardwired through the process—and became a parrot of the dividing class.

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            2. You Stated — “There is no consensus because of beliefs.”

              My Response — There’s no consensus between atheist so this invalidates your point.

              We don’t need consensus we need compromise.

              You Stated — “I was engaged with a gent about 6 months ago, and because of belief he wouldn’t even answer one question related to finding a starting point. ”

              My Response — Maybe it wasn’t belief that stopped him, maybe he is simply unreasonable.

              Let’s test that theory, I believe in God and even go to church. Let’s see if I can answer your starting point question.

              You Stated — “His mind had become hijacked and hardwired through the process”

              My Response — I grew up in the process so this should be fun. Let’s build a better world, who knows… it could make a great cross post between our channels.

              I’ll even start by agreeing that there is a virtual rock on the table between us 😉

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            3. Do you believe morality comes from god? If you do, would it be possible for us to improve on it? If you don’t, would it still be possible?

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            4. You Asked — “Do you believe morality comes from god?”

              My Response — God’s morality comes from God. Your morality comes from you. America’s morality comes from TV.

              mo·ral·i·ty
              noun
              –a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society.

              You Asked — “If you do, would it be possible for us to improve on it?”

              My Response — I can’t improve morality I can only change it. Morality is a fixed position not a growing understanding. When you oppose morality it’s an all or nothing game.

              You Asked — “If you don’t, would it still be possible?”

              My Response — “with God, All Things are Possible”

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            5. Can we agree to cap all millionares at 10 million and anything over that is 100% taxed?

              Can we agree that healthcare is kept in the free market but salaries are regulated by the govenment.

              Can we agree that insurance companies are ended and put out of business?

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            6. I agree with all but the first one. Depends on how many kids those millionaires have in diapers… hehe. I’m going to have to pick this up later since I still have company. I have a different approach than a political agenda.

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            9. Can we agree that there is only sales tax, zero other taxes?

              Can we agree that all pornography gets a web extension of xxx (Ex. porn.xxx) so it can easily be blocked by anyone wanting to block it?

              Can we agree to end the death penalty?

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            11. This is all to easy, let’s touch some of the harder topics.

              Guns: — Can we agree that you can buy any gun you want but that manufacturers are held liable for any deaths committed with them?

              Marriage — Can we agree to end marriage as a government practice and strip all legal authority from it?

              Abortion — Can we agree that everyone has a right to do whatever they want with their body since they don’t answer to us?

              Welfare — Can we agree to end welfare and people have to find work or join a state ran workforce program?

              Salaries — Can we agree to make all paid salaries public no matter what the business, organization or church?

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  14. I blogged upon this recently. many Christians castigate Islam for having the goal of world domination, but this is what Christians are promised. After Jesus comes, they will not only rule in the Holy Land but over all of the nations of the world. The word Islam translates as “surrender” or “submit” … Christianity is no different–submit to the will of God (become His slave) or suffer an eternity of torment. If you are looking for a kinder, gentler version of these religions, there isn’t one. Submit or die a thousand deaths. It is as simple as that. (None of that “God is love” BS.)

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    1. I did watch “The Family” this past week. It is the goal of US Christian politicians to infiltrate Jesus secretly with every foreign government. Many times on the taxpayers dime

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      1. I got the distinct impression that Russia is included in those foreign governments …

        Which might be another reason why tRumpsky is so cozy with Putin.

        And yes … Jesus is being infiltrated on the taxpayer dime.

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