Christianity and Human Sacrifice—The Religion Built in Blood

Christianity—the real pagan blood cult

“Human sacrifice, if you haven’t noticed, is right out in the open all over the Old Testament. It is commanded and approved. Many today will falsely tell you that it bans human sacrifice, but that is not in the text”—K

This is however, a satanic style blood cult who sacrificed human beings with the approval of their most heralded prophet, Moses.

Save the right shoulder of your peace offering for a heave offering. This is performed by holding the right shoulder above your head while moving it rapidly up and down. When you’re finished with that, the priest will burn the fat and eat the rest”

This was done to dismembered human women virgins that had not yet known a man.

And levy a tribute unto the Lord … one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep: Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the Lord. … And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses. And the booty … was … thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him … of which the LORD’s tribute was thirty and two persons”—Numbers: 31

Christians have been deceived into believing they were ever the good guys. Its roots are purely sinister.

But wait, there’s more! Much more…

Author: jimoeba

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101 thoughts on “Christianity and Human Sacrifice—The Religion Built in Blood”

  1. The Christian-Greek Old Testament—granted not the perfect, flawless Hebrew Tanakh and several other sacred ancient Jewish manuscripts and rabbinical commentaries—are LOADED with violence, both toward humans and animals commissioned and embraced by Yahweh according to these Scriptures as you are correctly suggesting Jim, do NOT reflect a loving God characterized by Christian theology of omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence by an engaged, perfect Divine being. Yahweh of the Old Testament that modern Christians claim as their forefather to the Jew Yeshua bar Yosef is incredibly violent and jealous exactly like most men around the world in all major religions!

    And when Greek-based 3rd- and 4th-century “Christians” try to claim heritage to Second Temple Judaism/Messianism, they are HORRIBLE wrong because of their Greco-Roman (Hellenistic) traditions of Apotheosis they want to impart, popularize, and eventually make the official religion of the struggling collapsing Roman Empire—which become the Roman Catholic Church and then the Holy Roman Empire. It is an obvious historical and cultural pattern seen throughout the entire Mediterranean chronicles of history. 🙂

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    1. It was a way of life the religion likes to deny. You should see the story of Jephthah where he sacrificed his daughter to the LORD for a burnt offering. That in itself should have started another abrahamic sect.

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  2. Hey God, ya know all those assholes you over-created? Well, we’re sending some back for a full refund of our misery and pain. If you have any other planets available for new occupants, I’m sure they will be more welcome there. Sorry, we have decided to end the sacrifice of virgins, mostly cuz they’ve become so damn hard to find. Have a nice day (or whatever you have).

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            1. Okay, perhaps I am being dense, but where specifically does it mention this:

              This was done to dismembered human women virgins that had not yet known a man.

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            2. Is this specifically what you are referring to, Jim?

              31:40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD’s tribute was thirty and two persons.

              31:41 And Moses gave the tribute, which was the LORD’s heave offering, unto Eleazar the priest, as the LORD commanded Moses.

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            3. Save the right shoulder of your peace offering for a heave offering. This is performed by holding the right shoulder above your head while moving it rapidly up and down. When you’re finished with that, the priest will burn the fat and eat the rest.

              And the right shoulder shall ye give unto the priest for an heave offering of the sacrifices of your peace offerings. He among the sons of Aaron, that offereth the blood of the peace offerings, and the fat, shall have the right shoulder for his part. … The heave shoulder have I taken of the children of Israel from off the sacrifices of their peace offerings, and have given them unto Aaron the priest and unto his sons by a statute for ever from among the children of Israel. This is the portion of the anointing of Aaron, and of the anointing of his sons, out of the offerings of the LORD made by fire, in the day when he presented them to minister unto the LORD in the priest’s office. Leviticus 7:32-34

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            4. Not sure what to do, or if others can’t see it too. I refreshed (more deodorant?) the page. I see everything.

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  3. Not sure I agree with this interpretation given that Numbers 31:17-18 specifically says:

    Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

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    1. 35. And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

      36 And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:

      37 And the Lord’S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen.

      38 And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the Lord’S tribute was threescore and twelve.

      39 And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the Lord’S tribute was threescore and one.

      40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the Lord’S tribute was thirty and two persons.

      40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the Lord’S tribute was thirty and two persons.

      41 And Moses gave the tribute, which was the Lord’S heave offering, unto Eleazar the priest, as the Lord commanded Moses.

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      1. “And Moses gave the tribute, which was the Lord’S heave offering, unto Eleazar the priest, as the Lord commanded Moses.”

        A “heave offering” is a tribute (aka tax) paid to the high priest.

        http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/7439-heave-offering

        While it’s certainly possible that unsavoury priests (pun intended) might have ate the young virgins in a cannibalistic ritual, there is no indication that the text actually prescribed such a ritual vis-à-vis human offerings — so I would be very cautious in promulgating this as a fact.

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        1. If this was an isolated instance of condoned human sacrifice in the Bible I would lean more to what you’re saying. But, I’ve been wrong before. I’m sure there are some hairsplitting apologetics that could enlighten me.

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          1. But that’s kind of the point: the passage cited in Numbers 31 prescribes how to divide the spoils of battle, not how to perform human sacrifice. Again, I caution against reading things into the text that aren’t there, lest you risk becoming an atheist fundamentalist. 🙂

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            1. If Numbers 31 is not a clear enough example, the numerous examples of “cherem” are not ambiguous. Most of the mass killings in the Old Testament were mass sacrifices, as stated in the text. Translations obscure this. Leviticus 27 gives an explanation of what “cherem” is. It means anything devoted to Yahweh as an offering. When the Israelite mass killings are described, what it usually says they were commanded to do was “cherem” the other group, meaning to offer them all as sacrifices. That is why you see commands like all the animals must also be killed, and valuables gathered up. And cherem means that no one can be spared and that all must be killed, even infants and animals. Letting someone that was supposed to be sacrificed go was what got Saul in trouble, and later on Ahab as well. Jephthah sacrificing his daughter to Yahweh(with no censure or comment) does not look unusual in light of this.

              Joshua 6-7 shows the cherem type sacrifices in different ways. One is the sacrifice of a non-Israelite population with all its animals and goods, and the other is the sacrifice of an Israelite with his family and possessions for taking objects that were “cherem” to Yahweh. Taking anything meant to offered to Yahweh could only be recompensed by the sacrifice of the one who took the items and his children.

              2 Samuel 21
              6 let seven of his sons be handed over to us, and we will impale them before the Lord at Gibeon on the mountain of the Lord.”

              8 The king took the two sons of Rizpah daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Merab daughter of Saul, whom she bore to Adriel son of Barzillai the Meholathite; 9 he gave them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they impaled them on the mountain before the Lord. The seven of them perished together. They were put to death in the first days of harvest, at the beginning of barley harvest.

              This was in response to a famine that started because Yahweh was angry at the former Israelite king Saul. This was David and the Gibeonites’ solution to appease Yahweh. Sacrifice Saul’s remaining sons and grandsons(except the crippled son of Jonathan). No usage of cherem here, this is a different sort of sacrifice. Look at the specific site and time of the act as well.

              It puts Numbers 31 in context when you know what “cherem” is. It would not have been beyond the pale at all for the 32 virgins to be devoted as offerings and killed, though I doubt any cannibalism would have occurred. That is not in evidence as a Hebrew custom. I can say that the portion belonging to Yahweh need not be considered priestly property, the priests got a separate portion in Numbers 31. Yahweh got a portion of everything they took, including the Midianite virgins. We know the animals were to be sacrificed, and the Midianite virgins were included with them.

              Leviticus 27
              28 Nothing that a person owns that has been devoted to destruction for the Lord, be it human or animal, or inherited landholding, may be sold or redeemed; every devoted thing is most holy to the Lord. 29 No human beings who have been devoted to destruction can be ransomed; they shall be put to death.

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            2. I agree that the passages in Joshua and Samuel could rightfully be deemed acts of propitiation because the accounts state it outright. But the word “cherem” has multiple meanings — cursed thing, devoted thing, devoted to destruction, dedicated thing, set apart, banned — so context is important. Plus it doesn’t appear in Numbers 31.

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        2. my question is: what would the temple priests do with girls as “tribute”? Can you imagine these vicious people actually wanting to be humane to these girls? I could see a human sacrifice easier than I could see them feed and clothe these girls.

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          1. What would they do with such girls? Well, according to Deuteronomy 21:11-14, they could become unwilling brides. Or barring that, they would become unwilling servants. And according to Numbers 31, Eleazar’s share of the booty was: 675 sheep, 72 head of cattle, 61 donkeys and 16,750 shekels of gold; which is more than enough to cover the upkeep of 32 former virgins.

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            1. And 16 reserved for the Levite sacrifice? Read it carefully. Even the Bible commentaries are divided on this. It’s hard to imagine such brutality and our first instinct is to benefit the doubt. It’s unimaginable

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            2. “But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.” Numbers 18:24

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            3. I do understand I could be wrong, but looking through the history of monotheism, it really isn’t hard to see the results of unfettered Abrahamic faith, even historically documented atrocity and forced conversions for over a thousand years. Every where they have planted their flag it has been torture and bloodshed. Am I to assume it was better back then, when they were so incredibly brutal that they document it like a passing cloud, not even a thought of incriminating themselves because they were so right, and the world so wrong? But they themselves have been the offenders for a word.

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            4. I don’t necessarily disagree. But in fairness, every generation erroneously assumes it’s reached a higher moral plane than the previous one; so it’s very likely that the founders of the Abrahamic faiths regarded their moral codes as the epitome of civilization. And it’s also highly likely that future generations will judge us just as harshly for the things we now regard as morally acceptable — like our views on animal husbandry.

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            5. If that is really so, sort of negates the good ol’ days where we tend to think things were much better. I do think we feel superior in some ways and long for the past, which really wasn’t so great but love what we know. Simply a point of reference when it’s all you know.

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            6. That seems an assumption that this would be enough. We know that, if the bible claims are true (and the numbers seem to be ludicrous), these animals would be slaughtered for the temple.

              But you may be right.

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  4. we have a lot of humans dying for this god. We have Cain killing Abel, because this god just “forgot” to tell anyone that it preferred meat. Then we end up with Jesus Christ, another human sacrifice that this god needed to torture to death so it would be happy and forgive humans for something it did.

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    1. Not really. Thousands (some stats put it at over a million throughout Catholic Europe) of women (and some men, not many) were publicly burned alive at the stake, condemned as witches and it was considered a grand spectacle by the Christian muggles. All institutional religions require human sacrifices in some way or other. Even Buddhism has its pogroms and genocides.

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    2. Like burning witches in the public square? Stocks, anyone? In Latin America they would secure 13 natives to a gibbet and burn them alive in honor of the lord and the 12 apostles. That kind of is what Voltaire said, “getting people to believe absurdity can get them to commit atrocity”

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      1. You see, burning someone alive. It’s appalling. People don’t just die when being burned. They burn for ages before the vital organs can even be reached. There’s a horrendous video of three “witches” being burnt alive in Nigeria. They’re just tossed on a fire, crawl out, tossed back in, crawl out, tossed back in. How in the hell can anyone be so cruel??

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        1. Welcome to Earth and its ruling Earthian “intelligent, sentient, self-aware species, John. You probably don’t believe in past lives (assumption here) but I was a victim of a witch trial in 15th C England. Not a pleasant memory.

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  5. If Numbers 31 is not a clear enough example, the numerous examples of “cherem” are not ambiguous. Most of the mass killings in the Old Testament were mass sacrifices, as stated in the text. Translations obscure this. Leviticus 27 gives an explanation of what “cherem” is. It means anything devoted to Yahweh as an offering. When the Israelite mass killings are described, what it usually says they were commanded to do was “cherem” the other group, meaning to offer them all as sacrifices. That is why you see commands like all the animals must also be killed, and valuables gathered up. And cherem means that no one can be spared and that all must be killed, even infants and animals. Letting someone that was supposed to be sacrificed go was what got Saul in trouble, and later on Ahab as well. Jephthah sacrificing his daughter to Yahweh(with no censure or comment) does not look unusual in light of this.

    Joshua 6-7 shows the cherem type sacrifices in different ways. One is the sacrifice of a non-Israelite population with all its animals and goods, and the other is the sacrifice of an Israelite with his family and possessions for taking objects that were “cherem” to Yahweh. Taking anything meant to offered to Yahweh could only be recompensed by the sacrifice of the one who took the items and his children.

    2 Samuel 21
    6 let seven of his sons be handed over to us, and we will impale them before the Lord at Gibeon on the mountain of the Lord.”

    8 The king took the two sons of Rizpah daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Merab daughter of Saul, whom she bore to Adriel son of Barzillai the Meholathite; 9 he gave them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they impaled them on the mountain before the Lord. The seven of them perished together. They were put to death in the first days of harvest, at the beginning of barley harvest.

    This was in response to a famine that started because Yahweh was angry at the former Israelite king Saul. This was David and the Gibeonites’ solution to appease Yahweh. Sacrifice Saul’s remaining sons and grandsons(except the crippled son of Jonathan). No usage of cherem here, this is a different sort of sacrifice. Look at the specific site and time of the act as well.

    It puts Numbers 31 in context when you know what “cherem” is. It would not have been beyond the pale at all for the 32 virgins to be devoted as offerings and killed, though I doubt any cannibalism would have occurred. That is not in evidence as a Hebrew custom. I can say that the portion belonging to Yahweh need not be considered priestly property, the priests got a separate portion in Numbers 31. Yahweh got a portion of everything they took, including the Midianite virgins. We know the animals were to be sacrificed, and the Midianite virgins were included with them.

    Leviticus 27
    28 Nothing that a person owns that has been devoted to destruction for the Lord, be it human or animal, or inherited landholding, may be sold or redeemed; every devoted thing is most holy to the Lord. 29 No human beings who have been devoted to destruction can be ransomed; they shall be put to death.

    The basic definition of cherem, translated as “devoted” or “devoted to destruction” depending on what is being offered.

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  6. https://www.livius.org/sources/content/anet/320-the-stela-of-mesha/
    A page with more details about the stele, including a transcription.
    http://mnamon.sns.it/index.php?page=Esempi&id=44&lang=en#159

    This shows how similar the Israelite/Jewish way of thinking was to other related West Semitic peoples like the Moabites. 𐤄𐤕𐤌𐤓𐤇𐤄 is rendered as HḤRMTH in line 17. You can see the Phoenician letters on the picture of the stele for confirmation. 𐤄𐤕𐤌𐤓𐤇𐤄 is 17 down and toward the center-left, make sure to read right to left. הַחֲרֵם֙ (ha-herem) is the equivalent in Hebrew. It is the exact same word for the same concept. Keep in mind that Hebrew and Moabite in that time were basically dialects within the same basic language, and written in the same Phoenician alphabet. The alphabet used for Hebrew now(and for a long time) was originally made for Aramaic and promoted by the Persian Empire(Aramaic was a major government language). The Samaritans kept on using the older alphabet. Also note the artifact with the Moabite name on it, Kemoš-nathan(Kemoš.has given). Natan/Nathan is also a Hebrew name, and used in compound names as well, like Yaho-nathan(Jonathan, Yahweh has given).

    Kemoš was worshiped as Moab’s patron god at that time. Note how the story is very similar to Old Testament stories. Kemoš is angry with his people, so he lets them get conquered by foreigners, until he raises up a leader that throws out the invaders(Israelites in this case). My main point here is that the behavior of the Moabites toward the Israelite towns is shown as no different than the Israelites in the Old Testament. The town of Nebo had its entire population slaughtered when Mesha took it, because he “devoted them to Kemoš”. The word there is variously translated as “put to the ban of Kemoš” or “devoted” or “sacrificed”, as “cherem” is often translated in the Old Testament. What this shows is that the concept was not unique.

    Maybe the Moabites had similar directives revealed to them by Kemoš. Unfortunately they did not write a book, or if they did have some holy book, it is not extant. I have often thought that if things went a bit differently in the past, some religion today might be writing apologetics and books about Kemoš rather than Yahweh. Kemoš knew that the people of those towns were all wicked and sinful Israelites, so he was perfectly just to have them all slaughtered. He had to protect his chosen people. Things like that.

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    1. Excellent comment – great research. Now what we should by looking into; what must be looked into, is “who” are these “gods” and how did they get to wield such positions of authority and power over tribal humanity, for the same stories are known throughout the earth.

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  7. Never have I read a more garbage post. I advise you to actually read the bible. They weren’t sacrificing anybody, they were executing them. Which, I might add, is standard practice for many countries today. The closest you get to sacrificing people in the OT is Abraham’s attempt to sacrifice Isaac, but this was actually not God’s intention and God was simply testing him.

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    1. It was a violent culture. If you follow along the idea, what they did with captives is no different than what they did with cattle. Let’s say you are right in your comment? Would you prefer to be sacrificed or executed? Either way the Jehovah Effect© takes hold of the men of words to become judge, jury, and executioner out of the own urgent sense of self importance

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      1. Doesn’t matter, execution was decreed by God because they were following satanic practices. It’s always sad to see someone attempt to interpret the Bible one way and change God’s nature to fit their opinion. Sorry man, but you’re wrong

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        1. Aah, the great political arm called religion. Makes it sound important and virtuous, but has led to torture and brutality everywhere it has planted its flag. Sorry, you actually are wrong. The Bible can claim whatever it wants, but the outcome of this faith has been a history of torture and violence. Outcomes of faith always equal self importance, pride, dominance, and condemnation of others.

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          1. Self deceited AND conceited. The Bible talks about those that are blinded to its truth, and you are the perfect example. Look at America: built on the backs of slaves, violence, and bloodshed. Hypocrite! Everything you claim about the Bible has happened to America. Stop refusing to listen to truth.

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            1. Wow, America was founded on Christian principles. You are actually proving my point. I don’t know where you’re from, but America and the America’s was another place Christians planted there flag that led to oppression and bloodshed. The conversion of Europe and Latin America is unimaginable without the sword. 1000 years of forced conversions at the direction of Augustine and we are now a shadow of our former selves through obedience to a violent and archaic set of guidelines. The Bible is a guidebook to oppression. Every town and hamlet where the church group got a foothold it combined with local forces to oppression.

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            2. Was it tho? There were many founding fathers that weren’t christians. Obviously, you haven’t read the Bible and are using tiny, isolated portions of it to fuel your anger. I will pray for you, and I hope you realize that your opinions are not based off of any fact that you can prove. All you are doing is pointing to history that you either cannot prove or cannot make relevant. You have my prayers.

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            3. I guess to a Christian the lives of the indigenous don’t count. They weren’t really people until recently. Somewhere around 30 million in north and south America based on first hand accounts. Millions in Europe dwarfed the Salem trials in comparison. But, it was all for Jesus sake. Pray all you want. Been there, done that. A good way to nobly waste your energy.

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            4. Read just the accounts of Bartolo de las Casas. He was a priest that documented and estimated 12 million killed in his travels with Columbus and the boys.
              “They took babies from their mothers and by the feet, smashed them in the rocks, then cut the breasts off the grieving mothers. The men they hung 13 at a time on a gibbet in honor of Jesus and the disciples then burned them alive”. He stated, “they appear to have no religion, are compliant in our commands..they would make fine slaves”. “Testing the sharpness of their swords in honor of Christ the lord” they decimated entire cultures. And you’re defending it out of ignorance. Look him up. There is more though, much, much more.

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            5. Those were idiots that were not Christians. Point to history all you want- it proves nothing. Christians today, true ones, would never come even close to that. Prove to me that Christians today are killing thousands and then we’ll talk.

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            6. Only the compliant survived. There are no true Christians, only deluded believers. Here’s proof; you were promised tools as a believer. “In my name” they will heal the lame, cause the blind to see, move mountains. “Greater miracles than these” were promised to them that believe. Either your a phony, or the Bible lies. No signs greater than these follow anybody but a few tv magicians. It’s a huge con with a million pages of excuses to back it up. Command something in Jesus name. Pray all you want. It does nothing but systematically eat away at humanity by waiting. It’s up to us to fix our problems. No one is coming to save us.

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            7. That’s sad. You are blind, and you don’t even know it. I saw a dead man raised to life personally by a person that had nothing to gain for it. You are the defenition of the Christian unbeliever.
              And you know what? It’s kinda funny. You’re an atheist/deist or whatever, and for some reason, you’re enraged at Christianity, probably because they challenge your beliefs. As such, you create stupid, unintelligent “arguments” that don’t deserve to be called such, post them as if you were an adult while you act like a child, all under the guise of an intellect. You have no argument, no proof, and no argumentative skill. Be quiet and let the adults speak.

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            8. Nice of you to show how loving religion has made you. Have you ever wondered why the world is more secular than ever before, and it is simultaneously the safest time in the history of the world to be alive? Religion is watered down to belief without the power to enforce obedience. That’s why. Believe what you will. The atrocities you dismiss “not true Christian crap” while you move in after the dust settled and perpetuate this nonsense. You’ve had a thousand years of dominance and here we are. No peace, but plenty of excuses.

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            9. I am loving, but not to people that refuse to accept truth and say things that are untrue about the God that made them. The Bible describes something called righteous anger. As I said, I’ll be praying for you. God loves you. He exists. He made you. He is what gives me hope, and he can do the same with you. God bless you

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            10. I’ve said nothing untrue nor made any non-evidenced claims. Christianity on the other hand has all kinds of glorious claims and then dismiss their own scripture because it fails. Your belief has no utility nor proof. Thanks for the prayer. I’ll file them with all the others.

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            11. You said I saw “a dead man raised to life personally?” PLEASE … provide us with dates, times, and news reports. I must have missed that!

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            12. No, because even with proof, you wouldn’t believe it. Also, I live as a missionary in Uganda, so there were no News reports, and even if the News had heard, they would have accused it of being false. You people are so predictable.

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            13. Actually we all here wanted to believe. Just one thing would do. Missionary in Uganda eh? Haven’t we done enough damage there already. Soon the world will all believe and be monochrome blah where everyone thinks the same. Won’t that be great?

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            14. Wow. That’s a great way to spread the gospel. You are officially the result of belief—cantankerous and filled with hate. Maybe you need to go polish your Trump stickers. Too bad the people you contact proselytizing don’t know the real you and what belief has done.

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            15. I’m just angry in people acting stupid. Which, if that was the case then, I would be more angry at you then I have in my entire life. All belief in Christ has done is make people good people, striving to be better. Do you have a problem with that?

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            16. Belief in Christ has been a political move of control for a millennia. Even the Bishop saw the sleight of hand you continue to propagate.
              When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said ‘Let us pray. ‘ We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land”—Desmond Tutu
              You are not a tool for Christ, but for politics

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            17. And what motive then, do I have? I live with almost nothing- small brick house, few electronics, very very little. You live in your posh house with an iPhone, angry at the world, and pick on people that have no quarrel with you, only your hatred. You have no proof of what you are saying, all you can do is point to history and quotes. What politics did the early church have? None. They died for their belief, which is more than you can say. You have no hope and will die an angry, bitter man unless God captivates your heart and brings you hope in life.

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            18. I’m not angry at anyone at all. Not my style. You are the one that visited here are started calling people stupid. If you’re having a faith crisis just say so. Pretending is unbecoming of you.

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            19. When I had belief I thought I had it all too. When I had my awakening moment it all came into focus. Things are not the way of your indoctrinated youth. But appearances can be deceiving.

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            20. Your anger is pride, masquerading as faith. Happens to everyone important that believes. It’s called The Jehovah Effect©. Now you must do what I tell you and listen to what I have to say.

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            21. I was never chosen. I felt the call but Jesus wouldn’t have me. Was a Christian for many many years. Nothing but crickets.

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            22. If you were a Christian for many years, you would have given fruit, dude. Things change when you’re a Christian. I’ve seen people go from heroin and sex addicts into powerful men of Christ.

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            23. Takes all kinds. I beat my addiction with self empowerment. I’m much more pleasant and calm without belief that never came. I expected miracles and laid my hands on the sick and looked like a fool making excuses for the promises the Bible makes that never came. Takes mental wrangling to be a Christian. Nice work, wrangler.
              Faith did mature my integrity though. That’s why I called it’s eternal bluffing.

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    2. I’ve actually studied the bible and you have no clue. Let’s take for instance the Tribe of Benjamin and how they actually got their wives.

      Judges 21:10-24: So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

      The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.”

      Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we dest60royed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.’” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

      So because the Tribe of Benjamin suffered under a curse and no other Tribe of Israel would not allow them to marry their daughters? They went to the city of Jabesh-Gilead and slaughtered the whole town, except for the virgin girls, of which? They got 400 and? They raped them and forced them into marrying them, under the Levitical law. And when they did not get enough virgins from the town they slaughtered? They then kidnapped and raped the dancing women of Shiloh.

      And here is another example. Numbers 31:7-18

      They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

      Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

      Here again? We got the Israelites brutally slaughtering a whole town of people, including women, boys, etc, but the virgin girls? Those? They raped and used as sex slaves.

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    3. No human sacrifice in the bible huh? I guess you never read the bible have you? Here are some examples of human sacrifice in the bible for you to learn about.

      Judges 11:29-40 Jephthah Burns His Daughter

      “At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, “If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”

      “So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. “My daughter!” he cried out. “My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back.” And she said, “Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin.” “You may go,” Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah’s daughter.”

      2 Kings 23:20-25 Josiah sacrifices Pagans Priests

      At the LORD’s command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD’s command, he shouted, “O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.“ (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT)

      He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. Finally, he returned to Jerusalem. King Josiah then issued this order to all the people: “You must celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in the Book of the Covenant.” There had not been a Passover celebration like that since the time when the judges ruled in Israel, throughout all the years of the kings of Israel and Judah. This Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem during the eighteenth year of King Josiah’s reign. Josiah also exterminated the mediums and psychics, the household gods, and every other kind of idol worship, both in Jerusalem and throughout the land of Judah. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD’s Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since.

      Deuteronomy 13:13-19 Burnt offering of a whole town

      “Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.”

      Judges 19:24-29 Sacrifice of a concubine and the hacking of her body

      “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.”

      1 Kings 16: 34 Ahab sacrifices his sons Abiram and Segub

      34 In Ahab’s time, Hiel of Bethel rebuilt Jericho. He laid its foundations at the cost of his firstborn son Abiram, and he set up its gates at the cost of his youngest son Segub, in accordance with the word of the Lord spoken by Joshua son of Nun.

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