Faith is the mental effort to believe. According to research, during a typical day, a person uses about 320 calories just to think. Different mental states and tasks can subtly affect the way the brain consumes energy. Applying effort to the belief in things you don’t know, raises additional strain on cerebral energy consumption. Is this not works? Is not this something you do?
Additionally, the mental wrangling required to believe in deities is indeed effort. To outsmart the contradictions of the Hebrew religion also induces stress and issues of self worth, further adding to “works”.
Faith in Jesus is works. Contradictions 9:17 Apologetics is even further efforts that contradict the biblical promise.
Grace and faith are ideas in opposition that require caloric effort. The only way to evade that is faith like an atheist—total trust in letting go. Only then can grace be achieved through unbelief—through no effort whatsoever.

I can get religion and lose weight? I’ll stick to eating right and getting enough exercise, thank you.
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Creating and sustaining the supernatural realm of heaven is a mentally intensive delusion. GROG
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My brain needs “no effort,” since it may be limited enough! 😉
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I know better than that Mr Peace! Whatever the case, reality is generally the exact opposite of what is taught in modern religion.
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Well Jim, thanks for your time and ear.
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Have a great day!
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Yes, the Christian life is exhausting because there are so many standards. And so faith is to be always entirely on Christ: ‘Come unto me, and rest.’
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Sorry Arnold. I guess as long as you believe that you deserve it. How can Grace be free but require a exhaustive works, which mental work is actually a caloric output of effort?
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I don’t live the Christian life Jim, ‘Christ lives in me and I live by faith in him’ (Gal2.20).
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So you won’t be saved by grace, but by faith? Then there is no grace.
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See how confusing that is?
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It isn’t confusing at all. It’s quite obvious unless you want to water down the definitions.
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Yes, definitions can be watered down. And if Christ is God he’s absolute.
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An absolute being wouldn’t be contradictory to basic logic. It’s not complicated at all til you believe
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Yes, belief complicates stuff until its centered on the Absolute. God knows we’re dust- that’s what he chooses to work with.
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We’ve already been through this. If you want to be technical about it, dust is only a metaphor for form. There is no actual dust. That would make god deceptive. That is immoral
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Very Buddha of you!
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Why thank you John. I’m not sure exactly why this is Buddhic but I’ll take it.
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Find by not seeking.
Of course, there is a problem with this, which is: if the goal of the living is to have no desires then how can anyone desire Nirvana without desiring it?
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By accepting that nothing at all is in error and life is a singularity?
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If that works for you, sure.
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So, atheism could be said to be a religious ‘diet’ ?
No wonder I have no weight issues.
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Religious abstinence in this case is appropriate too…
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Or Faith Hill?
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Or amazing Grace?
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Grace Jones?
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In your case,probably Highway to Hell!
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Are you calling me the devil?
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Hell, no! Well .. maybe just a little devil
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